Is this normal? hmm...

lethalinj · Post by **lethalinj** » December 2nd, 2009, 11:37 pm

Just got my P64... Noticed that it appears that the hammer is not striking the firing pin...

Is this gap normal, with the safey off
and no round chambered?

I noticed that when I put it on safety
the hammer doesn't appear to move...

Should this go back to J&G?

lethalinj · Post by **lethalinj** » December 3rd, 2009, 12:13 am

After looking at it closer, maybe the hammer just doesn't rest on the firing pin... Look like when the trigger is pulled the hammer may fall all the way forward and then reset slightly off firing pin? Anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?

Thanks for any help... ???

stover · Post by **stover** » December 3rd, 2009, 1:49 am

In normal operation the hammer should drop when the safety is applied (pushed down). With the safety off the hammer will fall and strike the firing pin when the trigger is pulled in single or double action mode. The hammer is also rebounded, it will rest off of the firing pin when not cocked.
With an unloaded pistol you can test if the firing pin is being stuck by sticking a pencil down the barrel (eraser end first) and pulling the trigger. Or you can use a primed empty case.
If the hammer doesn't drop, from full cock, when you apply the safety that is an issue. The hammer not resting against the firing pin when uncocked is normal. It also will not move when the safety is applied unless the pistol is cocked.
Hope that helps.

lethalinj · Post by **lethalinj** » December 3rd, 2009, 2:28 am

Great, thanks for your reply... I tested with a pencil and the pencil launched out of the barrel at a surprising high velocity... So looks like the hammer IS striking the firing pin...

Also, the hammer does drop when the safety is applied, what I meant is that when UNCOCKED and you toggle the safety the hammer didn't appear to move forward and backward... Which I know is normal now because the hammer is rebounded...

Thanks again for your help... ;D

stover · Post by **stover** » December 3rd, 2009, 3:05 am

Lol, you must have the original hammer spring in the pistol. I did the same test when I got my gun. Pencil damn near stuck in the ceiling.
The rebounded hammer is common on this style pistol. Both my DDR and Bulgarian Makarovs work the same and several Sig's I've used. It is a safety feature. If the hammer was laying on the firing pin, and the hammer took a blow, the energy would be transferred directly to the firing pin and could cause it to discharge. Makes it safer to carry with one in the chamber and the manual safety off.
Glad to hear it works as it should and you understood my post. Not my most concise post

. Enjoy your pistol and welcome to the forum. People here are very helpful and the board is surprisingly active.

hardcorekeith · Post by **hardcorekeith** » December 3rd, 2009, 3:53 pm

I always love how everyone determines their gun is broken because they spend hours fiddling with it instead of just going to the range and shooting it.

electross · Post by **electross** » December 8th, 2009, 11:42 am

Good question, better to find out than to have something happen with it loaded. Shoot that thing and tell us how it works

paddlingman · Post by **paddlingman** » December 8th, 2009, 9:55 pm

Agreed. While I don't follow the advice of the liability attorneys and "have every gun evaluated by a gunsmith prior to shooting" - a quick safety/function check. Well, that's just natural selection at work.

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