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I bout this for 6.00 per 15... The guy told me it was east german but im not sure. He also couldnt tell me bullet weight.
Its steel cased with black laquer only around the primer. The head stamp has got 04 at 12 o'clock and 60 at six o'clock.
Does any body have any ideas. My internet skill might not be that great because I cant find it online so far.....

Is it a handgun or rifle round? Can you post some pics, that would be very helpfull. Is the bullet solid lead or FMJ? From the headstamp description I would guess it is a military round.

Sorry...yes it military...its a rifle round..8mm mauser. Heres pictures of the box it came in and the round itself.

He is probably correct on being East German. 4 is Volkseigene Betrieb (VEB) Mechanische Werkstätten Königswartha, East Germany.

The 60 should be the year it was producted (1960). As for bullet weight, I'd have to look that one up. I would say they're probably 196 grains. You'd have to probably pull one and weigh it.

well thanks....

Looks like the 7.92x57mm to me.

I would agree with p64-1973. The box does say 7.92 which is the land to land diameter of the rifle. The bullet diameter should be .323" to match the groove diameter of the rifle. If the bullet is not a 196 grain, then it would be 154 grain. Any forum I find on the internet that mentions these cartridges 04/60 do not give any other specifications as to the bullet weight.

juniustaylor wrote:I would agree with p64-1973. The box does say 7.92 which is the land to land diameter of the rifle. The bullet diameter should be .323" to match the groove diameter of the rifle. If the bullet is not a 196 grain, then it would be 154 grain. Any forum I find on the internet that mentions these cartridges 04/60 do not give any other specifications as to the bullet weight.

From what I have read, the standard German loading for the 8mm Mauser was a 196 grain spitzer style bullet. The Russians have different bullet weights for their 7.62x54r cartridge, depending upon what type of gun they were using it in, but I don't know if the Germans practiced this with their 8mm round.

Thanks for the great info guy!!!