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Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: August 3rd, 2010, 3:13 pm
by killroy
Howdy! I am among the newest of P64 owners and I have a question regarding the chambering of ammo. I'm using silver bear JHP and 9 times out of 10 the round is not properly chambered (ie it doesn't go all the way without a little "forward assist). Sometimes I even have to take the slide off to remove the round. Thoughts?

Oh yeah, when I first got the gun I soaked it in mineral spirits overnight and then cleaned all the gunk out of it while spraying all parts with WD40.

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: August 3rd, 2010, 8:15 pm
by normsutton
killroy

scrub the chamber with a bore brush and some acetone, it might have lacquer build up in it

NORM

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: August 4th, 2010, 9:56 am
by killroy
ok - thanks norm! I'll give it a try...

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 12:30 pm
by killroy
OK - so I cleaned the feed ramp really well - even polished it - but the slide still does not push the ammo in all the way. Then I noticed that the magazine catch does not hold the magazine up all the way - there is about 1/16" of play. When I hold the magazine up with my left hand and rack the slide with my right, I have no problem chambering rounds. The magazine is numbered to the gun (in pencil), but I guess that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

any more ideas?

thanks again, all!

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 1:11 pm
by normsutton
normsutton wrote:killroy

scrub the chamber with a bore brush and some acetone, it might have lacquer build up in it

NORM
didn't till you to do anything to the feed ramp,
norm

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 3:47 pm
by killroy
sorry - let me clarify. I also scrubbed the chamber with acetone and a brush; then I polished the ramp. Neither of these have worked. Is it possible that it's the small amount of play in the magazine?

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 3:52 pm
by normsutton
killroy
that shouldn't any thing to not being able to chamber a round,
you sure you have the right ammo 9 x 18 Makarov , not 9X18 police

norm

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 4:52 pm
by killroy
absolutely sure! the round never actually enters the chamber - it hits the ramp and stops - a bit too low it seems. That's why I was asking about the magazine not being tight...if I just had the extra 1/16 of an inch, I'm not sure that I would be having this problem.

Or I could be crazy...

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 4:56 pm
by normsutton
killroy

I doubt you are crazy, but not have the gun in my hand 's its very hard to tell what's going on with it

NORM

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 5:25 pm
by waltham41
You say that if you push the mag up it feeds. Do you have a different mag you can try?

Perhaps the contact point on either the mag or the mag release where it touches the mag is worn on your pistol?

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 6:00 pm
by killroy
Yes, this is difficult to try and describe. Unfortunately I don't have another mag to test out. Perhaps I could look for one and give it a try. Didn't I read on here once that there are differences in mags from the earlier guns and the later guns? Mine is a 1967...

If I have a worn mag release (or catch on the mag itself) is there a way to try and repair this?

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 6:58 pm
by killroy
ok - I made a short video, so hopefully this will help. Basically, you can see it jam when I chamber the round, and when I take the slide off, I jiggle it a little bit and something clicks (not sure what you call that arm thing right above the magazine), and the bullet jumps into place.

here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8ubVxux5D4

there's also this one, which is similar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUSDk2dk ... re=channel

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 8:19 pm
by normsutton
killroy

now I can see thank you , do you have another mag, if not try an get an original mag from Poland, there is a guy on gun broker that sells them,you can also take the grips off put the mag in a take a pix of that the mag should lock up tight no up and down play , you could have a bad catch on the gun or the mag, I suspect its the mag though , it probably a after market mag, that someone electric pencil the ser. No, on it to fake it


NORM

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 11:11 pm
by dfunk
It looks like a mag issue to me by what you describe, but when I watched your video, the first thing I thought of was the extractor might not be getting in front of the rim. I'd also try another mag to see if that changes things.

Re: Slide is not pushing ammo in all the way

Posted: September 7th, 2010, 9:25 am
by killroy
Thanks, guys! I'll try an original mag next. That makes sense about this being an aftermarket mag - it has almost too much play just to be wear!

If I have any more problems, I'll be sure to let you know!

:hi: