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New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 9th, 2009, 6:14 pm
by beltfedleadhead
Last week I got a1975-era P64 from J&G Sales. It is in great shape aside from a square of adhesive material that was stuck to the side. It looks like they had a label or something on there for a while. It came off easily with some CLP. The gun was greased well on all bearing surfaces and devoid of cosmoline, so only a little oil was required on the mechanism.

I am impressed by how well machined and fitted the gun is. There is no play between the slide and frame, much unlike many other surplus pistols I have handled. (I owned a PA63 for a while and was not happy with the punishment it gave the bones in my hand. It was as though it was designed to inflict as much pain as possible. It also liked to perform automatic fire when it got too dirty.)

Like most other P64s, it has a horrendous trigger pull. I bought the 18lb spring kit along with an extra mag when I ordered it, but it didn't seem to help much at all. I will put a few boxes through the gun and see if that helps.

I like this gun quite a bit. It's very comfortable, compact and well-designed. I look forward to my first range session and will post the results when I can.

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New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 9th, 2009, 7:55 pm
by normsutton
beltfedleadhead

if it came from J&G it is full or cosmoline, take the grips and slide off and clean the gun,before you ever shoot it, all that's been done to the gun is wipped down
nice pix
NORM

New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 10th, 2009, 1:07 am
by beltfedleadhead
I took it all apart, grips and all. It was remarkably clean. There was some white grease on the rails, but it wasn't cosmoline.

I just realized that was a limerick. I rock.

New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 10th, 2009, 1:15 am
by fivepointstar
SWEET!!! you take some great pics!! You have an eye for that. Great job!

New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 10th, 2009, 11:26 am
by dfunk
Great photos - you guys take good pics with those Powershots.

New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 10th, 2009, 10:31 pm
by fritzhund
8-)

I am the man from Nantucket........

Nice gun and welcome to the board!

Fritzhund

New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 11th, 2009, 8:54 am
by beltfedleadhead
Well I shot the P64 last night. Holy hell did that thing HURT! It was not an enjoyable experience. I'm going to have to shoehorn that Wolff recoil spring in there somehow and see if that helps.

On the plus side, the gun was VERY accurate. I ate the middle out of the target at 30'. Ammo was Blazer ball. Only a half box, though.

New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 11th, 2009, 10:51 am
by oppy
beltfedleadhead wrote:Well I shot the P64 last night. Holy hell did that thing HURT! It was not an enjoyable experience....
Huh, first time I have heard that :).

Replacing the hammer and recoil springs is about a 5 minute job. It lightened the DA pull and recoil slightly. What also helps my sensitive girlie hand is a slide on grip.

Enjoy your new P64!

New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 11th, 2009, 11:24 am
by beltfedleadhead
Oppy wrote:
beltfedleadhead wrote:Well I shot the P64 last night. Holy hell did that thing HURT! It was not an enjoyable experience....
Huh, first time I have heard that :).

Replacing the hammer and recoil springs is about a 5 minute job. It lightened the DA pull and recoil slightly. What also helps my sensitive girlie hand is a slide on grip.

Enjoy your new P64!
I replaced the hammer spring but it didn't do much to the DA pull.

I'm going to have to fiddle to get the recoil spring in there. It's a tiny bit too long.

Any hints on which rubber grips?

New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 11th, 2009, 12:05 pm
by norsk
I bought a 22 lb Wolff recoil spring from J&G Sales. Installing it was a bear and I had to use a lot of force to get the slide back on. Getting it back off was also a challenge.

I read on this (excellent) website about the stock recoil springs having flat ends, while the Wolff recoil spring ends are round. Following the recommendations on this site, I ground both ends flat. Problem solved. The recoil spring and slide goes on with ease.

New P64 pre-range review with pics

Posted: December 12th, 2009, 1:32 am
by eagle71
beltfedleadhead wrote: Any hints on which rubber grips?
beltfed, I put some Hogue Handall Jr. rubber grips on mine. I have a large hand, and recoil wasn't much of an issue, but these rubber grips really helped to fit the contour of my palm. My P-64 fits nearly perfectly in my hand now.

Great pictures BTW - and welcome to the forum!