Detailed takedown of P83

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Detailed takedown of P83

Post by lklawson » December 13th, 2013, 1:38 pm

I'm looking for a detailed takedown and armorer's strip (not a simple field strip for cleaning) of the P83.

I've googled till my fingers were blue. I got several hits right here on P64resource. But the weren't all that detailed. Helpful, yes, but limited. Got the exploded parts diagram (which is helpful) and the advice on popping the FP (which is similar to that for the P64, and also helpful). Other than that, bupkiss.

I'm looking taking mine down to parts and rust bluing the thing (the finish is very worn, particularly on the slide). YouTube doesn't have what I need (at least not that I could find).

Failing a detailed web page or video, I've got the old standby of "video tape yourself taking it apart, do so in a large clear plastic bag, use lots of baggies, label 'em." Which is a good system, but, well, I'll take as much help as I can get. I really don't want to show up to the local smith with a bag-o-parts. ;)

Suggestions?

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Re: Detailed takedown of P83 (manual)

Post by petesimon » April 15th, 2014, 12:52 am

* Edited / Updated : 28 August 2015 *

Hello lklawson and P64 / P83 fans! :hi: This is my first post here, so please don't axe me just yet, haha ;) .
I was also looking for details of the P-83. So I searched loads and loads even in Polish (don't speak any though) and found some pointers. Well, ultimately, I thought I should compile a kind of user's guide with 31 pages based on all the data I found. Feel free to take a look and please either make changes yourself or let me know how to improve the document. Page 23 "Detailed Parts Diagram and List" really needs to be proofread and corrected. I'm so bad at manually naming parts there. By the way, have you posted your take-down video to youtube? I'd like to see it. The document is attached to this message, and checkout these links:

* most PDF files are ISO 19005-1 PDF/A-1 compliant. Fonts and bookmarks are embedded inside these PDF files.
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PDF on Google drive (viewing online degrades photo and diagram quality)
View: http://goo.gl/QgGpIu
Download: http://goo.gl/pjTJ8V

PDF on Dropbox (viewing online may degrade photo andi diagram quality)
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Microsoft Word 2010, DOCX file for editing
- on Google drive
https://docs.google.com/uc?export=downl ... TlEWHhNOUE
- on OneDrive (SkyDrive)
http://1drv.ms/1X1udw2

Google Sites page
https://sites.google.com/site/petesimon ... anadpistol

The Internet Archive, Community Texts:
https://archive.org/details/P83WanadPis ... deInPoland

an article in world wide wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-83_Wanad

Cheers!

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Re: Detailed takedown of P83

Post by Curly1 » April 15th, 2014, 11:51 am

Welcome to the forum Pete.

Thanx for posting the links.
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Re: Detailed takedown of P83

Post by lklawson » April 15th, 2014, 8:46 pm

petesimon wrote:Hello lklawson. This is my first post here, so please don't axe me just yet, haha ;) .
I was also looking for details of the P-83. So I searched loads and loads even in Polish (don't speak any though) and found some pointers. Well, ultimately, I thought I should compile a kind of user's guide based on all the data I found. Feel free to take a look and please either make changes yourself or let me know how to improve the document. Page 23 "Detailed Parts Diagram and List" really needs to be proofread and corrected. I'm so bad at manually naming parts there. By the way, have you posted your take-down video to youtube? I'd like to see it. Here are links to the document, and it is attached to this message:

PDF
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7hPlf ... M4Rms/view

Word docx for editing
https://docs.google.com/uc?export=downl ... TlEWHhNOUE

Cheers!
Thanks. :)

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Re: Detailed takedown of P83

Post by andyson » March 19th, 2017, 12:45 am

shoot me a pm, i have a trigger bar




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Re: Detailed takedown of P83

Post by gman68w » March 19th, 2017, 6:58 pm

A bit late, but thanks! I was thinking about getting a Wanad now that people have them in stock again for a while, and I know my gunsmith is going to want a manual when I ask him to strip it and degunk it and reblue it for me. Super useful!
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Re: Detailed takedown of P83

Post by OG17 » March 19th, 2017, 9:07 pm

Mine came without the cosmoloine from J & G Sales. So there's no need to have a gunsmith take it apart. Mine did so to try to fix a decocking issue with the 1st one I got from GB and there are springs in there that are a PITA to reinstall.

http://www.jgsales.com/polish-p83-semi- ... 67335.html

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Re: Detailed takedown of P83

Post by Weasel640 » March 20th, 2017, 12:35 pm

I've taken mine apart down to the bare bones a few times. It really is not that complicated. Just make sure you pay attention to the direction/orientation that everything goes. Also for the springs I have a few Push/Pull tools that help a lot, these should be common place in any tool box as they will save much time and frustration (if you shop around you can find them for a few dollars but they are like these: https://www.turntableneedles.com/Belt-P ... _4176.html or https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Spri ... F145-112-1). Also there are a few pins that are staked in place (little divots in the metal around the pin), those pins should not be removed unless you absolutely have to. Specifically those on the Hammer.

I believe the internal workings of the P-83 very much resemble the Walther PPK. So any videos/directions on the detailed disassembly/assembly of the Walther PPK would also apply to the P-83 to some extent.

If you are disassembling to rust blue it; I'd do a full disassembly, then reassembly taking notes of trouble spots or spots you think you may forget, then disassemble again for the blueing. That way when you come back to reassemble it later you already have done it once and have your own notes to come back to after the time has past.
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