Decocker dropping issue
Decocker dropping issue
Hey guys, anyone else experienced the decocker dropping from the recoil? It only does it about 10% if the time but it's pretty annoying, other than that my p64 works flawlessly. is there a way to tighten up the decocker?
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
First it's a Safety, not a decocker.
You probably need to check that the Safety Detent is not rounded. If so, search the forum, there are threads about fixing it.
You probably need to check that the Safety Detent is not rounded. If so, search the forum, there are threads about fixing it.
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
Here it is, not sure if this would be considered rounded or not
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
I have always called it a de-cocker. None of mine have had a problem, but the detent is probably the problem
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
Me too. Could it be the detent spring?
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
When trying to troubleshot it avoids confusion if we refer to parts by their proper name. I.E. If I told you to go searching for a decocker detent, or decocker detent spring, your search result might be less than desired. But if I tell you to look for a Safety Detent then you come up with the right part.gradles21 wrote:Me too. Could it be the detent spring?
There are good pictures of what your Safety Detent should/n't look like here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1045&p=43843#p43843
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4365&p=42759#p42759
I'm seeing the Safety Detents readily available on both Gunbroker, and eBay. The Safety Detent Springs do normally come available on those two sources but I'm not seeing them now. On page 2 of the first link above, they talk about alternate springs to use. I believe the Safety Detent Spring for a Walther PPK will also work, one for a FEG PA-63 might work as well.
Another thing to check is that the grove in the Safety isn't worn to much. There should be a noticeable notch cut at both sides of travel. Good picture here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1215&p=14517#p14517
Also when you are putting the Safety Detent back in; It may help your sanity if you do it inside of a larger clear bag. Some people have accidentally launched these tiny parts, it makes for a frustrating scavenger hunt.
These are pretty good starting points for any other troubleshooting you may need to do:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1536
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
Welcome to the forum, let us know how you make out on Weasels suggestions.
+1 on the plastic bag for assembly/disassembly, it has saved me on several occasions from loosing parts on different handguns.
+1 on the plastic bag for assembly/disassembly, it has saved me on several occasions from loosing parts on different handguns.
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
Thanks for the help guys. But yes I've learned the plastic bag trick lesson the hard way. The day that I bought this p64 last week I took it home to clean and lube before going to the range, and while taking off the slide lever the slide lever spring shot out of there like a bat out of hell, luckily I have hardwood floors so I could hear when and where it hit the ground (still took me 30 min to find).
Anyway I'm wondering how stiff the detent spring should be, I've read some people say the plunger and spring can shoot out of its hole once you pull out the safety lever. When I remove the safety lever out of mine the spring seems too weak, the plunger only pops up out of the hole about halfway and I need needle nose pliers to remove it. I just assume buy a new one since I already ordered the detent but I'm not finding the spring for sale anywhere. Any thoughts?
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Anyway I'm wondering how stiff the detent spring should be, I've read some people say the plunger and spring can shoot out of its hole once you pull out the safety lever. When I remove the safety lever out of mine the spring seems too weak, the plunger only pops up out of the hole about halfway and I need needle nose pliers to remove it. I just assume buy a new one since I already ordered the detent but I'm not finding the spring for sale anywhere. Any thoughts?
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
The spring should be stiff enough to be annoying and make things difficult to re-assemble. That said, if cleaning the hole out so the existing spring and plunger don't work easily (they can gum up and not work right) and you can't find the correct P64 part, as said above, a Walther PPK detent spring and detent will work. I have one of my P64s sporting a PPK spring and detent. It works fine. If gunbroker is a fail, try http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/P64-c202.htm for P64 parts or even PPK parts in a clutch. Good luck.gradles21 wrote:Anyway I'm wondering how stiff the detent spring should be, I've read some people say the plunger and spring can shoot out of its hole once you pull out the safety lever.
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
I heard of guys using this
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/ ... 26224.aspx
and this
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/ ... 41707.aspx
too fix the the de cocker
Norm
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/ ... 26224.aspx
and this
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/ ... 41707.aspx
too fix the the de cocker
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
Thanks. I'll have to give that a shot if the new ppk detent doesn't fix the problem
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Re: Decocker dropping issue
The new ppk detent fixed the issue. Thanks guys
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