P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
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P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
I picked up a 22lb recoil spring for my P64 (trying to reduce the recoil for the wife...) and when I put it on, the slide won't go back on the gun. I pull the slide back as usual when reassembling and the slide won't go down enough for the slide grooves to go into the frame grooves. Anyone else have this problem or is there something I'm doing that's just stupid?
Re: P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
Actually, that is a pretty common problem. I believe that you will want to do the following:
1) Make sure that the tight end of the spring goes on first (the diameter of the open ends is different)
2) You may want to sand the ends of the spring flat instead of leaving them rounded -- but refer to step 1) first...
Dwight
1) Make sure that the tight end of the spring goes on first (the diameter of the open ends is different)
2) You may want to sand the ends of the spring flat instead of leaving them rounded -- but refer to step 1) first...
Dwight
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Re: P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
Step 1 is how I was doing it; I guess I'll give step 2 a shot.
Re: P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
If you look at the old spring you will see the end that goes on first is flat and the new spring isn't. Just flatten the new spring the same as the old and it will work fine. I have the 20# on mine and see no difference in recoil, would like to see if you see any with the 22.
Re: P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
I didn't notice any difference going from stock spring to the 22#. Wife also shot both springs and agreed. Also didn't complain or mention the stock spring or recoil as ever being issue though. She has confiscated the P-64 as her gun now.
She has shot stuff with a little more recoil, so I guess it's all relates to compared to what else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7u9vJ5pHJ8
She has shot stuff with a little more recoil, so I guess it's all relates to compared to what else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7u9vJ5pHJ8
Get your own C&R FFL at http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/curios-relics.html
Re: P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
I have the 22lb spring w/o the ends flattened.
It will go on but can be a challenge.
It will go on but can be a challenge.
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Gary
Gary
Re: P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
plouffedaddy,
Refer to this thread on grinding the spring:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3447
Generally speaking most of us have to grind the springs for them to fit correctly. Curly is an exception. Keep in mind that; if the slide does not want to go on, and you somehow get it on, it will be ten times harder to get it off.
Weasel
Refer to this thread on grinding the spring:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3447
Generally speaking most of us have to grind the springs for them to fit correctly. Curly is an exception. Keep in mind that; if the slide does not want to go on, and you somehow get it on, it will be ten times harder to get it off.
Weasel
Weasel
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Re: P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
Thanks for all the help guys. Before I posted here, I emailed Wolff. They called me back about an hour ago and I spoke with Dave who was really helpful. He stated basically what everyone here has said but expounded a little. I'll pass what he said along for everyone's knowledge....
He said with the original spring they released, they found that in about 6-8 out of every 1000 they sold they would get a call/email stating this problem. A few months ago they redesigned the spring to eliminate this issue. My spring was one of the new ones and he stated it was the first time he's heard this from anyone who purchased the new spring. I told him I'd gladly grind down my spring but he insisted that they'll send a new one out free of charge and he'd grind it before he puts it in the mail.
Tough to complain about that kind of service!
He said with the original spring they released, they found that in about 6-8 out of every 1000 they sold they would get a call/email stating this problem. A few months ago they redesigned the spring to eliminate this issue. My spring was one of the new ones and he stated it was the first time he's heard this from anyone who purchased the new spring. I told him I'd gladly grind down my spring but he insisted that they'll send a new one out free of charge and he'd grind it before he puts it in the mail.
Tough to complain about that kind of service!
Re: P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
Add me to the list of those that needed to be ground flat, from an order I received from Wolff end of January. Like most probably did, just followed advice here and never bothered to email Wolff (6-8 out of every 1000?)
I replaced springs not for reduced recoil, but to prevent wear and tear. Safety catch broke in half shortly after getting the P-64, and read that with reloads, heavier springs should be used to reduce wear and damage from possibly hotter reloads.
I replaced springs not for reduced recoil, but to prevent wear and tear. Safety catch broke in half shortly after getting the P-64, and read that with reloads, heavier springs should be used to reduce wear and damage from possibly hotter reloads.
Get your own C&R FFL at http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/curios-relics.html
Re: P64 won't go together with Wolff 22lb spring
Actually mine comes off OK.
Laugh Hard and Often.
Gary
Gary