WWII Rifles
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Before someone accuses me of ignorance, the Finns and Swede's used variations or modified versions of weapons Pappabear had already shown us and technically the Swiss never fought in WWII and I am unaware of any other country using the Rubin. So pretty much he had already shown us the basic combatants from the European theater. And since what I have seen presented of his collection is very droolworthy I was curious if he had collected from the Pacific side of things. Just sayin. Course if Pappa wants to keep teasin us I for one will NOT complain. And nice job on the sell for a pretty profit Poppa.
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I would bet there are is some M39 porn he has stashed away.
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Ooooooohh. Really?? Maybe?? ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
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As for the Swede M96 & Swiss K-31 I was only posting them to show the range of my collection from over the years, but I still do have a small collection of WWII era rifles.
I only have the one Finn M39 now but here is a pic of the M28 bayonet that I did have with it in the middle of a 91/30 and M44.
![Image](http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/gunnut701/MNM91-30FinnM39MNM44.jpg)
Sad to admit this but I did have a small collection of two Japanese rifles and their bayonets/scabbards that I sold. A Mukden arsenal type 38 [ 6.5mm] with matching Mukden [Manchuria] with matching Mukden bayonet/scabbard, dust cover and correct sling, and a Jensen arsenal [Korea] type 38 [6.5mm] with matching Jensen bayonet/scabbard, dust cover and correct sling. Sorry no pic's, sold them to help pay off hospital bills in '97 when I had by-pass surgery.
Here is my M95 Budapest straight pull bolt which is a WWII rifle used by the Hungarians, I have the correct bayonet and scabbard, original 1938 ammo [8x57R] in en-block clips. BTW, it kicks a harder than the MN M44 by a bunch.
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I only have the one Finn M39 now but here is a pic of the M28 bayonet that I did have with it in the middle of a 91/30 and M44.
![Image](http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/gunnut701/MNM91-30FinnM39MNM44.jpg)
Sad to admit this but I did have a small collection of two Japanese rifles and their bayonets/scabbards that I sold. A Mukden arsenal type 38 [ 6.5mm] with matching Mukden [Manchuria] with matching Mukden bayonet/scabbard, dust cover and correct sling, and a Jensen arsenal [Korea] type 38 [6.5mm] with matching Jensen bayonet/scabbard, dust cover and correct sling. Sorry no pic's, sold them to help pay off hospital bills in '97 when I had by-pass surgery.
Here is my M95 Budapest straight pull bolt which is a WWII rifle used by the Hungarians, I have the correct bayonet and scabbard, original 1938 ammo [8x57R] in en-block clips. BTW, it kicks a harder than the MN M44 by a bunch.
![Image](http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/gunnut701/DSCN6140.jpg)
![Image](http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/gunnut701/Gun%20Accessories%20Pics/DSCN5978.jpg)
![Image](http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/gunnut701/Gun%20Accessories%20Pics/DSCN4475.jpg)
![Image](http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/gunnut701/Gun%20Accessories%20Pics/DSCN4478.jpg)
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More great examples!
Head stamp on the 1937 ammo is pretty cool too.
Head stamp on the 1937 ammo is pretty cool too.
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Nice M-95 pappa. Ya don't see those often. And I bad heard that about the M-95 kicking like a pissed off moose. If it is worse than the MN M-44/ M-38, of which I have 2, I can just imagine how ones shoulder would feel after a battle. The sqaure edges on the M-38's buttplate are murder. And damned nice collection Pappa. I am officially jealous as hell. ![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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Ketchman,
Appreciate you comments. The M95 is a little lighter than the M44. The M95 weighs 8.3 lbs, the M44 weights 9 lbs, plus with the M95 is a 8mm rd and the m44 is a 7mm rd. The M38 MN is lighter than either of them coming in at 7.5 lbs, it has a heftier kick in my opinion than the M44 also. I have a M38, M44 and a M59, and IMHO the M95 kicks worse of all. I took my M95 to the range with friends and they all shot my Budapest M95 and they all agreed its kick was harder than the M44 which we all had.
Appreciate you comments. The M95 is a little lighter than the M44. The M95 weighs 8.3 lbs, the M44 weights 9 lbs, plus with the M95 is a 8mm rd and the m44 is a 7mm rd. The M38 MN is lighter than either of them coming in at 7.5 lbs, it has a heftier kick in my opinion than the M44 also. I have a M38, M44 and a M59, and IMHO the M95 kicks worse of all. I took my M95 to the range with friends and they all shot my Budapest M95 and they all agreed its kick was harder than the M44 which we all had.
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You deserve the comments. You have worked hard to build that collection and you obviously have an eye for good pieces. What is the grain weight on the 8x57 round? And FPS at the muzzle if you know.
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Ketchman,
I sized a couple bullets of 1938 8x56R Mannlicher ammo with my micrometer, its a .329 dia and scaled them at 206gr I don't have a chronograph but I have read this bullet is rated at around 2000fps if memory serves me.
I sized a couple bullets of 1938 8x56R Mannlicher ammo with my micrometer, its a .329 dia and scaled them at 206gr I don't have a chronograph but I have read this bullet is rated at around 2000fps if memory serves me.
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Papa,
Best info I can find say's 206grain rou d at 2,300 fps at the muzzle. Yeah. That would be about the same as firing 203grain soft point 7.62x54r at a listed 2306fps out of my MN M-38. Ouch. But a hell of a lit of fun. And the fireball is
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Best info I can find say's 206grain rou d at 2,300 fps at the muzzle. Yeah. That would be about the same as firing 203grain soft point 7.62x54r at a listed 2306fps out of my MN M-38. Ouch. But a hell of a lit of fun. And the fireball is
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Very nice cross selection of rifles.
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Mj1,
Outstanding collection, I especially like your Russian SVT 40![Cool 8)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
Outstanding collection, I especially like your Russian SVT 40
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Thank You !papabear wrote:Mj1,
Outstanding collection, I especially like your Russian SVT 40
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Not your every day Finnish rifles from 1920's and 1930's...
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