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8x54r French Berthier

Post by dfunk » March 14th, 2014, 11:50 pm

No, I don't have one, but please read my short plea -

I have a good buddy who's father has 1 year left on Earth to shoot, drink, eat, and be happy. I'm actively seeking info and resources on this round, 8x54r. If anyone has any primers, bullets, or fully assembled cartridges, I'd love to hear from you. We have the dies and 50 clean cases if it comes to reloading. If you can help in any way, you'd make a nice guy really happy.

Thanks!

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Re: 8x54r French Berthier

Post by snailman153624 » March 15th, 2014, 1:57 am

I spent a while looking around, about the only thing I could find were one or two folks using other cases and resizing them to fit. I'm guessing this is a pre-WW1 cartridge from Europe somewhere.

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Re: 8x54r French Berthier

Post by Weasel640 » March 15th, 2014, 2:10 pm

From the Wiki page: The Berthier rifles and carbines were a family of bolt-action small arms in 8mm Lebel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berthier_rifle

So unless I'm reading this wrong I think you are actually looking for 8mm Lebel ammunition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8mm_Lebel

I think this is a specimen of what you are after:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =400584153

There are plenty of others if you search for "8mm Lebel" instead.
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Re: 8x54r French Berthier

Post by Curly1 » March 16th, 2014, 10:58 am

I posted this over in the Gunboards ammo and reloading forums.
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Re: 8x54r French Berthier

Post by Curly1 » March 16th, 2014, 11:22 pm

Got a cuple of replies from my postings on gunboards.

Sorry to hear about the circumstances; I hope that year is long, and filled with peace and enjoyment.

I believe you are referring to 8X50R Lebel. I would check the Graf and Sons website for loaded ammo and reloading components. I know they carry them. The bullets might be tricky since the 8X50R French rifles have an 8MM bore diameter of .327" instead of the commonly encountered .323" diameter. Some rifles will shoot the .323" bullets just fine while others won't do so well. In that case, bullet casting is an option. Lee should have moulds that work if necessary.


Would that not be 8x50R Lebel ammunition? Some here:

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog...categoryId/256
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Re: 8x54r French Berthier

Post by dfunk » March 17th, 2014, 10:18 am

Weasel640 wrote:From the Wiki page: The Berthier rifles and carbines were a family of bolt-action small arms in 8mm Lebel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berthier_rifle

So unless I'm reading this wrong I think you are actually looking for 8mm Lebel ammunition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8mm_Lebel

I think this is a specimen of what you are after:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =400584153

There are plenty of others if you search for "8mm Lebel" instead.
Whoops! I mistyped - I should've said 8x50R Lebel.

Curly, I think Graf & Sons has exactly what I'm looking for. Kinda pricey at $1/round, but this isn't going to be an all-day affair, and under the circumstances, it really doesn't matter.

Thanks everyone for the help!

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Re: 8x54r French Berthier

Post by normsutton » March 20th, 2014, 7:14 am

DF

PRVI PARTIZAN this brass is re loadable, with L rifle boxer primers , is very good brass ,

loaded
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/cat ... goryId/256?

these are the bullets I think for the lebel cartridge
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/pro ... ctId/12618

here's just the brass
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/cat ... goryId/792?
is very good brass , I buy just brass the brass to make 41 Swiss brass

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Re: 8x54r French Berthier

Post by dfunk » March 28th, 2014, 1:42 pm

Thanks for the resources, Norm. I appreciate it!

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