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Re: How to carry...

Posted: February 29th, 2012, 3:25 pm
by Curly1
Did you have your finger inside of the trigger guard while you were cocking the hammer?

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 4th, 2012, 8:04 am
by Birds Away
I usually carry the P64 as a BUG. I am a righty but have practiced with it almost exclusively left handed. I carry whatever primary EDC for my right hand and the P64 in my left hand jacket pocket 6+1 safety on. So far, I haven't had an issue clicking the safety off left handed. When summer rolls around I will use the P64 as a primary for very short trips. My primary will usually be my CZ 82 or 83 or my P83.

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 8th, 2012, 2:07 am
by bowsavage
At work we carry Glock 22s in what we call duty ready. (I know that's about the only way to carry a Glock) My firearms instructor preaches that we carry off duty all the time. You would be surprised how many cops don't carry off duty. As for having one in the chamber it really depends on what you are comfortable with. The key to how you carry is practice, practice, practice. I have triple retention on my duty holster and now i can draw in one seamless movement as if there were no retention at all. It may sound funny but the best way to practice is to stand in front of a mirror and watch how you draw. Muscle memory will eventually take over it will be as simple a task as tying your shoes. (always practice on an empty chamber) The saying I like to tell people when they ask me about CC is think of your gun like a condom when you were 17, it is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Even with a tap, rack, and ready no matter how you carry you have still made the decision not to be a victim and that is what counts.

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 9th, 2012, 3:05 am
by p64-1973
I carry mine in a IWB holster with one in the tube, safety on. I carry the spare magazine on the left side in a leather magazine carrier. I use the Silver Bear 94 grain JHP's.

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 26th, 2013, 9:52 pm
by bstickler92
Once I get my CCW, I will carry IWB in a PPK holster 6+1. I have not yet decided on whether or not to go with safety on or off. I was playing with the safety and trigger(unloaded of course) and I found that with the safety lever halfway between safe and fire, you can have the hammer back, the trigger is disengaged(as in it will pull all the way back with no resistance like the safety is on) and the hammer block of the safety is blocking the firing pin. What do y'all think about that function? Has anyone found that before?

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 27th, 2013, 12:17 am
by Curly1
Welcome to the forum.

Someone posted on here last year they carried it in their pocket with the safety off and they had a discharge when I think when they were putting it back in their pocket.

They got lucky no serious injuries.

It's called a safety for a reason, don't use it at your own risk and those around you.

I will have to see if I can dig up that post.

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 29th, 2013, 7:27 pm
by normsutton
Curly1

its not called a safety , its a decocker , and there was no written police report on these guys that said they shot them self's with a P-64 , and if they had gone to a doctor there would be one ,its the law in ever state
bstickler92
you ether put the decocker on or off , don't put it half way, that's how accidents happen

NORM

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 29th, 2013, 7:52 pm
by Curly1
It does block the firing pin so in a sense it can be viewed as a safety.

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 29th, 2013, 8:31 pm
by normsutton
all 6 P-64's of mine have a rebounding hammer's on them , and I haven't change anything in mine except springs
The hammer automatically rebounds to a blocked position off of the firing pin
the hammer will not fall on the firing pin until the trigger is pulled , once pulled it will fire if the hammer was back

NORM

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 30th, 2013, 1:00 am
by Curly1
Norm did you carry yours w/o the decoker on?

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 30th, 2013, 1:32 am
by normsutton
yes
norm

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 30th, 2013, 4:43 am
by Weasel640
This is the thread you were referring to: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4378&p=42642&hilit= ... ety#p42642

I agree with Norm. Either use it as a safety, or use it as a decocker. There is NO half way.

But lets not argue about what it's called. In almost all the manuals it's called a "Safety". Lets just agree it's a safety/decocker.
http://katowice.szkolapolicji.gov.pl/?p ... =3387&sa=1
http://www.jgsales.com/manuals/P64Manual.pdf
http://p64resource.com/board/P64_Parts_List.pdf

As I've stated before since there is no firing pin block, always put pressure on the hammer with your thumb when shifting/moving a P-64 this will ensure the hammer does not catch and release from clothing like in the linked thread.

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 30th, 2013, 7:06 am
by normsutton
Curly1

sorry I stand corrected it is called a safety in the manuals , and thank you Weasel640
but I do stand by my statement , on having a rebounding hammer's on them , you would have to smack the hammer with hammer to get it to fire with the hammer down, unless there is something wrong with the pistol , or its been modified, or the finger is on the trigger and the some how the hammer is drawn back and trigger is pulled,


NORM

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 30th, 2013, 10:08 am
by Curly1
Norm,

I agree about the rebounding hammer, P83 and CZ82 I believe have them also I will have to look at them.

I wonder if they were ever subject to the "drop test" on those hammers with the safety/decocker off and if they past if they were.

Re: How to carry...

Posted: March 30th, 2013, 11:24 am
by normsutton
Curly1

I wouldn't want to try it , liable to brake something before it ever when off


NORM