Sources for P64 grips (NOT wood)?

blackadderlxx · Post by **blackadderlxx** » July 8th, 2007, 2:32 pm

Hello to all-

Sorry if this is a dumb question...

Is there a source for new grips that are NOT wood? I looked through the archives and saw some made by Zee that were apparently amazing. Anybody else doing something like that? I bought this little lady for the look/feel at a gun show and had no idea that it was so difficult to find parts...

Thanks

Post by **normsutton** » July 8th, 2007, 3:53 pm

blackadderlxx

There is a good set over in buy sell & trade mine aren't that good but
beasleydano has a new pair

http://p64.proboards67.com/index.cgi?ac ... 1183910707

NORM

devlinfaust · Post by **devlinfaust** » July 8th, 2007, 6:54 pm

I wish someone made hard rubber grips for these. Alas, those of us who like those rubber grips, which would be very good for the P-64, are relegated to the Hogue slip-on (and be prepared to have to modify it) for the time being.

Parts are coming, however. Wolff spring makes some good springs and the P-64 is developing a following.

beasleydano · Post by **beasleydano** » July 8th, 2007, 7:05 pm

I do so hope that parts are coming. I hate to think about the possibility of companies buying upsurplus P64s to be cannibalized in order to sell parts! I have a spare pistol just in case but I hope it doesn't get that serious!

redfestiva · Post by **redfestiva** » July 8th, 2007, 7:28 pm

I wish someone made hard rubber grips for these. Alas, those of us who like those rubber grips, which would be very good for the P-64, are relegated to the Hogue slip-on (and be prepared to have to modify it) for the time being.

I agree with this. If ever rubber grips are made for the P-64 I'll be in line to get some. Fortuntately the P-64 is a hardy pistol that does not seem to habitually need parts.

Post by **normsutton** » July 9th, 2007, 6:23 am

The last time I talked to Shawn (ZEE) he told me it cost him $100. just to make the mould to make his grips and that's if they came out perfect the first time and then he could only so many grips out of a mould and that's doesn't include to price of the plastic resin and time. At $18.00 a set of grips he sure didn't make any money ,in fact if anything he lost money.

We just got a 1,000 members on this forum and a lot of us have more than one P-64, but the big grips makers have to make a profit ,and that's the bottom line.

Thank the gods that we have Chris & Dennis to make wood grips at a reasonable price because nobody else will and we need to support them or it may come a time when they don't want to do P-64 grips

maybe ZEE will start making GRIPS again but not for $18.00 ,I would pay a lot more , if I could make the moulds and get the resin I think I'd charge at no less than $30.00 to $40.00 a set maybe more for multi colored don't know can't find the stuff to do it with.

NORM

bzinggg · Post by **bzinggg** » July 9th, 2007, 11:43 am

I agree with Norm 1,000%. Shawn is a great tech and craftsman and he should be paid for his work. It's the only way anyone could continue to produce such a good product.

devlinfaust · Post by **devlinfaust** » July 9th, 2007, 3:36 pm

I wonder if there is some sort of hard rubber compound that he could use instead of the resin? Of course, that question would be academic unless he wanted to start doing these again. He also did these grips in resin for the CZ-52. I clearly should have gotten some grips from him, when we had the chance.

duggi60 · Post by **duggi60** » July 10th, 2007, 8:00 pm

I think Zee grips would be fair at $30.00 a pair if he would start
up again making P 64 grips. I would if others are also willing to
donate say $10.00 towards a startup fund to make molds &
help with material costs.

bzinggg · Post by **bzinggg** » July 10th, 2007, 10:17 pm

That's a kind sentiment, but I think we should just buy a back-up set of grips from Zee instead. The "donation" route just throws the economics of a free enterprise endeavor off, giving an unrealistic expectation of profit for the manufacturer, and of the fairness of the price for the consumer of his product. Investors expect a return in free enterprise, which causes expectations of special consideration that Zee doesn't need to be burdened with. Any producer of custom made parts just needs to find out for sure if the demand for the product is adequate to provide a profit at a reasonable price, making the endeavor worthwhile. There is a fair price for those grips out there. It may be $30 or it may be $36. If the demand increases with a favorable customer feedback, then the price may be reduced to $28.50 and still provide adequate margins. Practising realistic economical principles will make Zee or any other talented producer a successful businessman. With Shawn's talent, this approach has a real chance of becoming a genuine business because he can then manage to branch out into other products using his technique and expand his market. This is just my opoinion from my experience and education. Others are free to disagree and without malice either way, fellow members.

beasleydano · Post by **beasleydano** » July 10th, 2007, 10:33 pm

Hooray for good old American capitalist thought!

devlinfaust · Post by **devlinfaust** » July 11th, 2007, 7:55 am

I'd sure like to see him start up again. Maybe even see if he could make these in hard rubber instead of resin. I wouldn't be adverse to pledging or even paying in advance, if he could do so, and were so inclined. I don't recall ever hearing a negative comment on Zee's grips or his service.

blinddog · Post by **blinddog** » July 11th, 2007, 7:37 pm

I'm one of those guys that like the look and feel on good ole wood. I just dont have the bucks to put them on my guns yet. Still trying to get that other 64 its a 72 and looks just great.

space · Post by **space** » July 11th, 2007, 8:06 pm

With all the grips people have purchased there must be a bunch of origional grips laying around.

I had a pair that I ruined with gun cleaner. They got all milky white and blotchey. However, I just painted them using Krylon Fusion spray paint and they look better than new. I used the white texture paint and it came out great.

I'll try to post a picture when I get one taken outside. The inside pictures of the white grips are pretty sad...

That said, it would be great to get another set of grips for backup. If we could guarantee ZEE a certain quantity of grips do you think he would be interested in doing them?

exe · Post by **exe** » July 11th, 2007, 10:41 pm

I would love to get some hard rubber grips. Id pay for em.

Let me know.. I check into here almost every day and would love a good set of black rubber grips.

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