New to P64s and jazzed!

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Yes, note that the United Defense mags seem to be designed to match the post 1974 OEM magazine's ( change to the magazine's was made that year) and do not work without modification on the pre 1974 guns. However, if you are willing to do the filing then they seem to be working reasonably well.
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Well, I am still loving my P64.

Attached is my Polish gal dressed in her Marschal grips -my apologies if the picture is poor... I had to compress it a fair amount and yes, I blurred out the serial number. The grips truly are amazing, and given he had them ready for shipment when I purchased, they only took 10 days.

Anyway, where did all of the mags go? I only have 3. From some reading on the United Defense mags, some say 1970 is the cut off date for pistols that will accept them. I am now reading here that it is 1974.
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M11293 wrote: January 14th, 2019, 9:42 pm Well, I am still loving my P64.

Attached is my Polish gal dressed in her Marschal grips -my apologies if the picture is poor... I had to compress it a fair amount and yes, I blurred out the serial number. The grips truly are amazing, and given he had them ready for shipment when I purchased, they only took 10 days.

Anyway, where did all of the mags go? I only have 3. From some reading on the United Defense mags, some say 1970 is the cut off date for pistols that will accept them. I am now reading here that it is 1974.
Actually with little file work the United Defense mags can be be made to work with older pistols no problem. It's not difficult it's just inconvenient.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6964#p59861
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Nice grips!
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Sirrus_Rider wrote: January 15th, 2019, 12:31 pm
M11293 wrote: January 14th, 2019, 9:42 pm Well, I am still loving my P64.

Attached is my Polish gal dressed in her Marschal grips -my apologies if the picture is poor... I had to compress it a fair amount and yes, I blurred out the serial number. The grips truly are amazing, and given he had them ready for shipment when I purchased, they only took 10 days.

Anyway, where did all of the mags go? I only have 3. From some reading on the United Defense mags, some say 1970 is the cut off date for pistols that will accept them. I am now reading here that it is 1974.
Actually with little file work the United Defense mags can be be made to work with older pistols no problem. It's not difficult it's just inconvenient.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6964#p59861
Thank you. I saw that post. I was just curious about the date cut off. Some say 1970, others say 1974.

Anyway, how much of a modification are we talking? How many millimeters were removed? And in what places?
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M11293 wrote: January 15th, 2019, 8:19 pm
Sirrus_Rider wrote: January 15th, 2019, 12:31 pm
M11293 wrote: January 14th, 2019, 9:42 pm Well, I am still loving my P64.

Attached is my Polish gal dressed in her Marschal grips -my apologies if the picture is poor... I had to compress it a fair amount and yes, I blurred out the serial number. The grips truly are amazing, and given he had them ready for shipment when I purchased, they only took 10 days.

Anyway, where did all of the mags go? I only have 3. From some reading on the United Defense mags, some say 1970 is the cut off date for pistols that will accept them. I am now reading here that it is 1974.
Actually with little file work the United Defense mags can be be made to work with older pistols no problem. It's not difficult it's just inconvenient.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6964#p59861
Thank you. I saw that post. I was just curious about the date cut off. Some say 1970, others say 1974.

Anyway, how much of a modification are we talking? How many millimeters were removed? And in what places?
I pretty much did it by trial and error and used the mag that came with the gun as a model. It couldn't have been more that a millimeter or two. The photos pretty much tell the story as to what needs to be done.
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Sirrus_Rider wrote: January 16th, 2019, 10:43 am
M11293 wrote: January 15th, 2019, 8:19 pm
Sirrus_Rider wrote: January 15th, 2019, 12:31 pm

Actually with little file work the United Defense mags can be be made to work with older pistols no problem. It's not difficult it's just inconvenient.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6964#p59861
Thank you. I saw that post. I was just curious about the date cut off. Some say 1970, others say 1974.

Anyway, how much of a modification are we talking? How many millimeters were removed? And in what places?
I pretty much did it by trial and error and used the mag that came with the gun as a model. It couldn't have been more that a millimeter or two. The photos pretty much tell the story as to what needs to be done.
Cool and thanks for the informative posts. I would like to have 5-7 tried and true mags.

Really wishing I got a second P64 when CF was having their sale. Such a great pistol.
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M11293 wrote: January 16th, 2019, 8:42 pm
Sirrus_Rider wrote: January 16th, 2019, 10:43 am
M11293 wrote: January 15th, 2019, 8:19 pm

Thank you. I saw that post. I was just curious about the date cut off. Some say 1970, others say 1974.

Anyway, how much of a modification are we talking? How many millimeters were removed? And in what places?
I pretty much did it by trial and error and used the mag that came with the gun as a model. It couldn't have been more that a millimeter or two. The photos pretty much tell the story as to what needs to be done.
Cool and thanks for the informative posts. I would like to have 5-7 tried and true mags.

Really wishing I got a second P64 when CF was having their sale. Such a great pistol.
I broke down and bought a second one, but unfortunately after Classic sold out. Luckily, I found a 75 on Gun broker for around $275 which isn't bad; however, I think that price is likely to be the new bottom.
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Based upon posts I have seen here and on other forums, I am glad to have gotten a second 1971 from Classic when I did. They are both completely refurbished and only 416 apart in serial numbers. The last one is absolutely perfect with not a mark on it! Now, this was supposed to be primarily a parts gun to insure my first p-64 stays healthy, but it is just too pretty!

Although I wasn't planning on it, now I am keeping an eye out for one that is not so nice to keep these guns healthy! :)

I am also glad to have picked up some spare magazines from Classic right after I got my first P-64. I could always use more and may try some of the United Defense mags in the near future. Looks like they should work okay in my guns. If not, I have a Dremel!(famous last words)
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You two are smarter than I...

I was thinking of the same thing after I fell in love with my Polish lady. One for parts, one for love. Yet, they are such great pistols, and they are only going to go up in value (such is true for the entire surplus arms market), so two nice ones would be worth it.

I would really like to have a more used P64 though. It would make a great camping pistol, or something you could hide in your car. Some say 20 oz is too heavy to carry, but I think I would take a P64 over a Ruger LCP any day. I like all steel pistols. Hornady's FTX 9 mm Mak performance is pretty stellar too.
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You guys may also want to pick up a P83 also.
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I would like to have one Curly, but living in Marylandistan, a special license is required to buy "regulated firearms"(handguns) which the state uses as a handgun registry. Being a freedom loving patriot, I refuse to comply so I can only purchase C&R handguns for now.

In a few more years, some will be eligible and can be added to my collection.
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GuitarmanNick wrote: January 20th, 2019, 9:12 am I would like to have one Curly, but living in Marylandistan, a special license is required to buy "regulated firearms"(handguns) which the state uses as a handgun registry. Being a freedom loving patriot, I refuse to comply so I can only purchase C&R handguns for now.

In a few more years, some will be eligible and can be added to my collection.
I would get a P83 now. Then get a second one when/if they are made C&R. That way at least you have the one. P-64s are really starting to dry up (I think for good this time), wouldn't want that to happen before you get a P-83. Plus they are almost as fun to shoot as the P-64.

Also you'll be missing out on the MAG-98. Holding out on non-C&R really only hurts your inventory.
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Here is a past discussion and link to a very in depth review of the P83.

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M11293 wrote: January 15th, 2019, 8:19 pm I was just curious about the date cut off. Some say 1970, others say 1974.
I have a 1965 that is the old style and a 1972 that is the new style. So 1974 isn't the cutoff date.
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