1974 P 64

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Perry
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1974 P 64

Post by Perry » November 7th, 2016, 5:32 pm

I have ordered a 1964 P 64, it has not arrived yet. I would like to install a new Wolff recoil spring if that will reduce felt recoil and ease the shock on the firearm. Is the 22 lb. spring the way to go or is that too extreme? I am waiting until it arrives to see how bad the double action trigger pull is. If it is really, really bad, I will also order a lighter hammer spring. I thought an 18 lb. spring would be a decent compromise on the hammer spring. Any advise on this? Thanks.

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Re: 1974 P 64

Post by patJ » November 7th, 2016, 7:37 pm

18 pound hammer spring is perfect, the recoil spring is not that bad, make sure your safety lever, spring and detent are in good shape (nice cone shape), never, never dry fire the pistol during field strip: your hammer bar will detach from trigger spring and trigger and will be a pain to reconnect, removing the hammer spring is not that bad, look on you tube for tutorials, and...this is the site to look for hints.

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Re: 1974 P 64

Post by chestertnted » November 7th, 2016, 8:09 pm

One of mine is the tri-angle hammer 1974.
I kept original hammer spring, but experimented with the recoil spring.
Regular practice will help handle the DA trigger pull
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Re: 1974 P 64

Post by Curly1 » November 8th, 2016, 12:21 pm

Welcome to the forum Perry.
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Re: 1974 P 64

Post by BeoBill » November 8th, 2016, 2:39 pm

I finally went with a 20# recoil spring after some experimentation (I bought the three spring kit). It all depends on the balance of what your gun likes and what you like. YMMV. Have fun!

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Re: 1974 P 64

Post by robhic » November 9th, 2016, 11:15 am

No recoil spring is gonna make a really noticeable difference. In fact, sometimes, iirc, the 22# spring can cause the mags to drop loose. Now, the trigger spring is a MAJOR improvement! The 18# spring is what I have in all 6 of mine.

For real recoil abatement and better grip and control, look at the "Polish Iron" grips. They're molded and slip on around the grip for 4-sided coverage. Very nice! They can be gotten on the forum here.
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Re: 1974 P 64

Post by BeoBill » November 10th, 2016, 1:07 pm

+1 on the Polish Iron grips. They are the best, and at a reasonable price.

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Re: 1974 P 64

Post by Perry » November 10th, 2016, 1:44 pm

The p64 came in today, it is a very nice example. It has been carried a little judging by the bluing but shot very little as the bore is great and there is very little traces of slide wear. Thanks for the welcome and the info, I have ordered a 20 lb. recoil spring and a 18 lb. hammer spring. The double action hammer pull is rather tough.

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Re: 1974 P 64

Post by Perry » November 17th, 2016, 8:48 am

I have replaced the recoil spring with a 20 lb.(easy) and the hammer spring with an 18 lb.(not so easy). The double-action trigger pull has gone from nearly impossible to what you would expect. The single-action trigger pull is still good, the mag release operates a little easier. The safety takes some pressure to take it off safe, I expect that is because the hammer block takes some effort to move with the hammer resting on it. I have not fired it yet but will soon. I am really impressed with the little gun, it is very well made.

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Re: 1974 P 64

Post by Perry » November 26th, 2016, 12:27 pm

I have fired the P64 without issue. I have put a Hogue's Handall Universal grip sleeve on it as high as it would go and cut off the excess at the bottom. It gives more to hold on to and the rubber cushions some and is not as slick as the stock grip surface. I shot Brown Bear 94 grain FMJ which functioned well. I have read on this forum that the P64 was designed to fire 71 grain bullets at 1017 fps. Current 94 grain bullets are fired near 1000 fps also. This makes me wonder about the extra battering the gun takes from this. I have changed out the stock 18 lb. recoil spring with a 20 lb. Wolff spring but this is only about 11% stronger. Maybe I should have gone with the 22 lb. spring. Any thoughts on this? Thanks.

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