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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by Curly1 » June 22nd, 2016, 12:08 pm

An article here on one persons take on it, read and draw your own conclusions.


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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by Weasel640 » June 22nd, 2016, 12:12 pm

culpeper wrote:Please tell me you see the fallacy in the first part of your argument. Improper recoil management will result in more felt recoil. We all know the fundamentals here. What people are really feeling is the slide slamming back. We know that is the slap we feel down the arm. So, how you get behind your weapon and use your person to absorb some of that punishment is important. So, if you thinking "ouch" then that is distracting from staying on target. There is a correlation between felt recoil and staying on target. Some simple exercising will help. Get a post hole digger and dig a few holes a couple of feet deep. If your hands, arms, and shoulders are sore the next day then you probably need to do some exercising. Like keep digging post holes until the P64 stops hurting.
This is totally wrong. So if I'm shooting a 5.56mm M4, and switch to a .50 cal M82A1; When I say the felt recoil is more, with your logic my recoil management is jacked switching between the two platforms and I should go dig post holes. That is way off. Recoil management only goes so far in easing felt recoil. Saying to go dig holes is not an answer, it's just you putting down the other people on this forum.

Also the original poster was specifically asking in regards to his 8 year old grandson, as well as referencing the difference in felt recoil between other firearms. In this case Robhic's solution of using a fingerless glove is a more viable option.
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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by culpeper » June 22nd, 2016, 12:19 pm

That link is not right.

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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by Weasel640 » June 22nd, 2016, 12:35 pm

culpeper wrote:That link is not right.

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The link works fine. Maybe try a different browser on your phone.
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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by culpeper » June 22nd, 2016, 1:13 pm

Thanks. Read the entire article. I like it. The fundamentals are there with tips for improvement.

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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by culpeper » June 22nd, 2016, 1:19 pm

Btw, since you bring up rifle shooting I can get behind a .300 H&H prone with bipod and keeping square behind it and in the pocket keep my sight picture on target for the next shot. Again, minimizing recoil, pain, fatigue. I can do this for 50 rounds no problem hitting sub moa midrange six to eight hundred yards.

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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by Weasel640 » June 22nd, 2016, 1:45 pm

culpeper wrote:Btw, since you bring up rifle shooting I can get behind a .300 H&H prone with bipod and keeping square behind it and in the pocket keep my sight picture on target for the next shot. Again, minimizing recoil, pain, fatigue. I can do this for 50 rounds no problem hitting sub moa midrange six to eight hundred yards.

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That's good for you. But the OP was asking about taming the recoil for his 8 year old Grandson.
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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by culpeper » June 22nd, 2016, 2:56 pm

wolrabm49 wrote:I took my P64 to the range on saturday. I have fitted wolf springs, with a lighter hammer spring, that feels great. I also used a 20 lb recoil spring, but the recoil is still pretty heavy. I have the V.05 grips on it, which feel nice. We were shooting 22's, 9's and 45 ACP's. All of them were less recoil than the P64, my eight year old grandson shot all the others, but I didn't let him try the P64.

Any advice on improving it, or do I just live with it?
Looks like he is asking for advice on improving the recoil or just live with it. I say just learn how to handle it like everybody else does with a PPK. You brought up a number of other topics.

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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by snailman153624 » June 22nd, 2016, 8:16 pm

Troll alert

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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by culpeper » June 23rd, 2016, 9:11 am

I am directly replying to responses. That is not trolling. Snail, if you got a secret to handling the P64 than share it.

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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by robhic » June 23rd, 2016, 5:28 pm

culpeper wrote:I am directly replying to responses. That is not trolling. Snail, if you got a secret to handling the P64 than share it.
I don't think ANYONE has a solution to control the P64's recoil that would satisfy most folks. That said, for a younger shooter (my 14 y.o. grandson who is really recoil sensitive comes to mind...) the fingerless glove and Russ's grip in lieu of the originals made him happy. The P64, unfortunately, is a beast! Springs ain't the answer. The answer lies outside the pistol, ie. gloves, grips, etc.
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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by snailman153624 » June 23rd, 2016, 10:41 pm

culpeper wrote:I am directly replying to responses. That is not trolling. Snail, if you got a secret to handling the P64 than share it.
So, which ammo do you use....

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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by culpeper » June 25th, 2016, 6:37 pm

Brown and silver bear, ppu.

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Re: Heavy recoil

Post by chestertnted » June 25th, 2016, 7:29 pm

You have to shoot it often.
Keep the feel.

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