P64 slam fire question

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P64 slam fire question

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So while loading my p64 last week, I had a potential slam fire event. I placed my loaded mag in and when i racked the slide with finger OFF the trigger the gun fired and cycled all 6 rds almost instantaneously. The recoil pushed the gun back enough that one round went though my left hand exiting my index finger. luckily no joints were hit and only the index finger bone was hit requiring a small rod to be inserted. i also lost the fingerprint of my middle finger but it is unknown if that was a bullet graze or a slide bite. The question I have is how would this be possible with this gun?
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Same possibility as with any firearm. 1)Bad/worn Sear 2)Bad/worn Hammer 3)Bad/worn Disconnector and/or 4)a Firing Pin stuck in the forward position. There could be other reasons but these are the most common.
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So sorry for you. A terrible event.
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That's HORRIBLE!!! :shock: I am sorry to hear of this and I would DEFINITELY seek the services of a competent gunsmith ASAP! Simple problems/fixes are the realm of these (free) forums. Shooting yourself in the hand would, IMO, require professional, hands-on repairs. I know I would.
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That is a terrible incident.

I hope you have a swift recovery.

+1 I would suspect a worn sear also.

I assume you racked the slide with the safety off?
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I am very interested in the cause of this event and any potential precautions for preventing a similar outcome.
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Rancher9 wrote:I am very interested in the cause of this event and any potential precautions for preventing a similar outcome.
1) Having it on safe when loading would mitigate a bad Sear, Hammer, or Disconnector. The safety blocks the firing pin from being struck.

2) Also do a visual check on the beach face to make sure that the firing pin is not protruding prior to releasing the slide.

Those two actions should in most cases prevent this from happening.

Additionally you can do functions checks after cleaning and before firing.
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We have had firing pins reported to have broken, possibility of jamming in a way the pin could stay exposed.
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This really seems like a no-brainer, IMO. Something sticks, slide doesn't always return to battery, etc. - simple stuff. Forum (FREE, get what you pay for advice) probably good place to ask for help. Gun goes into full-auto? FIND A COMPETENT GUNSMITH ASAP! You already shot yourself!!! :shock: What more do you want to happen? Find someone who knows guns and can look at the defective weapon. Get it fixed before another disaster happens. What is so hard here???

This really shouldn't even be a question. It should be a story. Being told like the guy who had his P64 go off in his pocket! A warning.
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+2 on that.
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robhic wrote:This really seems like a no-brainer, IMO. Something sticks, slide doesn't always return to battery, etc. - simple stuff. Forum (FREE, get what you pay for advice) probably good place to ask for help. Gun goes into full-auto? FIND A COMPETENT GUNSMITH ASAP! You already shot yourself!!! :shock: What more do you want to happen? Find someone who knows guns and can look at the defective weapon. Get it fixed before another disaster happens. What is so hard here???

This really shouldn't even be a question. It should be a story. Being told like the guy who had his P64 go off in his pocket! A warning.
At this point it is just a story. The OP has only posted once and not been back. The only discussion has been other people.
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Hopefully he didn't incur further injury that keeps him from coming back.
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Curly1 wrote:Hopefully he didn't incur further injury that keeps him from coming back.
I thought the same thing after reading what Weasel said! I hope he didn't try it out again and get even more seriously hurt!!! :shock:
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Weasel640 wrote:
robhic wrote:This really seems like a no-brainer, IMO. Something sticks, slide doesn't always return to battery, etc. - simple stuff. Forum (FREE, get what you pay for advice) probably good place to ask for help. Gun goes into full-auto? FIND A COMPETENT GUNSMITH ASAP! You already shot yourself!!! :shock: What more do you want to happen? Find someone who knows guns and can look at the defective weapon. Get it fixed before another disaster happens. What is so hard here???

This really shouldn't even be a question. It should be a story. Being told like the guy who had his P64 go off in his pocket! A warning.
At this point it is just a story. The OP has only posted once and not been back. The only discussion has been other people.
I have to agree with Weasel

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Well its not like he shot himself, rested up for the night made a post and went back out to duplicate the malfunction. He was hospitalized, had surgery and judging from the post had recovery time before posting. Very unlikely after all that he decided to go and monkey on the problem himself and if he did... Darwinism at work. But in all seriousness I do hope he is ok. I do agree this is a good lesson for proper maintenance and inspecting your firearm before shooting. More info would be nice like how long has he owned it, number of rounds put through before this happened, modifications (if any) was there any point he took the gun apart past basic field stripping and so forth. I do hope he posts again. This post could save a life or two if continued further by the OP.
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