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ball or jhp

Post by bigduke6 » July 10th, 2010, 3:01 am

love the p64. will make a great summer/light day cary. would like to use jhp ammo but not sure if thats the best choise for the 3.5inch bbl. whats yall's take on it. allso where would you rank the Hornady jhp/xtp against other jhp

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Re: ball or jhp

Post by jobot » July 10th, 2010, 6:38 pm

I prefer ball ammo because the p64 was designed for it; also you get deeper penetration with ball ammo.

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Post by darrell » July 10th, 2010, 6:41 pm

It depends on what feeds well. My P-64 doesn't feed Hornaday (won't even chamber). I use Pow'r Ball or FMJ. A good FMJ like S&B, Winchester or Fio. will definitely get the job done. I think you should experiment and see what will actually feed reliably.

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Post by hardcorekeith » July 10th, 2010, 7:39 pm

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Post by mychoads » July 10th, 2010, 10:24 pm

I've been carrying FMJ but think I'm going to go with the SilverBear JHP's. I tested some in wetpack and it seems to out-penetrate the hornady xtp's and is much cheaper and more easily available.

Check out a couple videos I made here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LY5IFZib9g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcmwy3a9wfI

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Re: ball or jhp

Post by Kalashnikov Josh » July 11th, 2010, 9:13 pm

Do you P64 owners think this stuff will be ok to fire in a P64?-

http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l= ... tail&p=220

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Post by normsutton » July 11th, 2010, 9:21 pm

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its too much for a P-64 and FEG guns ,it shows only the
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Post by darrell » July 11th, 2010, 9:25 pm

I think that since there aren't any spare I would agree with Norm that it might be risky. The P-64 is small it would at least be pretty hard on your hand and no doubt shorten the life of your gun.

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Post by Kalashnikov Josh » July 12th, 2010, 5:29 pm

Norm seems to know what hes talking about-I'll keep the 'heavy' stuff for the CZ82.......

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Post by papabear » July 12th, 2010, 6:40 pm

Good Idea.....

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Post by former_usmc » July 12th, 2010, 8:35 pm

I just ordered a p64 from SOG so I too was wondering which you guys would recommend. As was mentioned, I'll probably play around with some different brands to see what mine likes.
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Post by shinerjohn » July 12th, 2010, 11:21 pm

I've settled on ball for my P-64s. I do use Hornady in my Maks and Silver Bear JHP in my CZ-82. However, I believe the shorter barrel of the P-64 drops the velocity too much for reliable expansion of hollow points. I could be wrong, but I feel more confident with the FMJ round.

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Post by mikana » July 13th, 2010, 6:27 pm

For the time being, lead cast (4 gr unique).

May switch to silver bear hp tho when I get some. Problem is, if HP doesn't expand, you'll get fmj like penetration, if it does you'll get less penetration, but the expansion.

I am considering staggering them....

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Post by mychoads » July 15th, 2010, 9:53 pm

I read about not using the p-64 with some of the hotter ammo on here, and other places, so I shot an email over to Buffalo Bore and asked them about using the 115 gr load out now in the gun, and also when the +p jhp will be available.

They responded with this:
"I see no reason why you cannot us it in your P-64 as a lot of other
customers do.

Whenever the bullets arrive, which was supposed to be in May 2010, we will
make the ammo, but that is all I know."


They say there should be no problem with the heavier load in the p-64.

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Post by jbabbler » July 16th, 2010, 1:12 pm

mychoads wrote:I read about not using the p-64 with some of the hotter ammo on here, and other places, so I shot an email over to Buffalo Bore and asked them about using the 115 gr load out now in the gun, and also when the +p jhp will be available.

They responded with this:
"I see no reason why you cannot us it in your P-64 as a lot of other
customers do.

Whenever the bullets arrive, which was supposed to be in May 2010, we will
make the ammo, but that is all I know."


They say there should be no problem with the heavier load in the p-64.
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