The Unofficial P64 Resource Forum

xelloss, I'm from outside West Lafayette - I remember when the tornadoes creamed Monticello pretty bad in '73. :-/

Me, I've been living in New Mexico since '88 when I graduated from IU down in Bloomington. Mostly in Albuquerque.

I am pretty pleased with them myself, amigo! Never seen one like that polifrog - thanks for posting it.

Thanks, gents! Hi Papabear . . . I'm pretty pleased with this gun. Believe it or not, I was trying to trade into a P-64, but I'm happy with the R61.

I used to have an SMC-380, but it was one of the steel-framed ones and I eventually traded it off . . . and regretted having done so. The thing was utterly reliable and was quite accurate - one hole at 30 feet. Today a friend traded me an R61 (Hun military gun the size of a PPK, 9x18 Mak, very few i...

Really good pictures. I do a lot of comparison shots such as these with my pocket guns. Thanks for taking and posting them.

I'm a 41-year-old appellate criminal defense lawyer. I managed a gun store for two years between college and law school, back in the late '80s. :) http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/Erich505/mewbeard11aug70090001resized-1.jpg Moved from Indiana to NM right after college to get away from the humi...

Thank you for posting your info - very kind of you.

Great info, thanks!

tim, your take is noteworthy and I'm pleased to see that it backs up what I see in my work. I'm an appellate criminal defense lawyer, and I've worked in some capacity on over 150 handgun killing cases (and a of more nonfatal shootings). I've read a lot of OMI reports and pathologist testimony, etc. ...

Frankly, with something as anemic as the 9x18, I'd want the penetration of FMJ. Put them in the right place, and they work. I've never seen a 9x18 overpenetrate in a case, so that's not a big worry for me. I think expansion is highly overrated (a big-time pathologist told me once that he could not d...

This lawyer needs to get off his tucchis and buy a P-64, though! ;) I'll try to remember more "Tales of the 9x18," and I'll put them here if I think of them. I know I've worked on several other 9x18 killings - they really do seem to perform (in the cases I've seen) more like a 9x19 than l...

I don't know what you want to know. I can think of two 9x18 cases off the top of my head in which several (3 or more) 9x18 rounds went into various points around the victims' chests. The aortas/hearts were clipped, and the victims immediately ceased their aggressive action (they were charging the sh...

Nope, not a doc - I'm an appellate criminal defense attorney. (I haven't seen these wounds - I've worked on the cases.) My office handles almost every murder that happens in my state, so I get to see a lot of OMI reports. I've been doing this particular job for about a dozen years, and then before t...

Man, abwehr, that looks nice. I live in a pretty area, but that's really lovely.